探索与系统健康技术领域副主管罗德·马丁博士

“[In] everyone’s life, they have a pivotal moment when they ask the question, ‘What am I really doing? What am I here for?’ … I’m reminded of a credo that I came up [with] through the evolution of my engagement of a whole bunch of recreational pursuits [including being a marathoner, ultrarunner, and Ironman triathlete] … as well as my professional pursuits. It’s threefold, and here’s what it is:

“[First,] I’m here because I want to be able to challenge myself, to see how much I can squeeze out of me – whatever that is, whatever ‘me’ is. [For example,] I applied to the astronaut candidate program twice, but I failed to make it to the second round. I figured I’d give a go at throwing my hat in the ring! Like with [an earlier career experience of failing out of] the Navy Nuclear Power Training Program, failure in one domain just means that you have to pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and find a new direction – often pursuing stretch goals that are outside of your comfort zone.

“[Second,] I want to serve others. I want to find a way to be of use to others, whether it’s in a structured manner or unstructured manner, whether it’s volunteering or just being a civil servant. I really focus on this service aspect; I did become a supervisor about three years ago, and I really take that role seriously. I really have a service-based leadership philosophy. … That’s why I think [mentoring student interns] represented such a [career] highlight for me, because I felt like I was serving their needs. I was helping to really educate them and [provide] knowledge that I want to … transfer to them, to really inspire that next generation of folks.

“… And the third – which I think NASA fits beautifully – is, ‘How do I build the future? How do I help build the future?’

“So again, it’s challenge, service, and building the future. If I don’t do anything else in my entire life except for those three things, I’m at least getting something right. I might be getting everything else entirely wrong, but I can at least work toward those three things.”

— Dr. Rodney Martin, Deputy Discovery and Systems Health Technical Area Lead, NASA’s Ames Research Center

Image Credit: NASA / Brandon Torres
Interviewer: NASA / Michelle Zajac

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“[在]每个人的生活中,他们都有一个关键的时刻,他们会问这样一个问题:‘我到底在做什么?我来这里干什么?’…我想起了一个信条,这是我在参与一系列娱乐活动(包括马拉松运动员、超级长跑运动员和铁人三项运动员)以及职业活动的过程中想出来的。它有三重含义,具体如下:

“[首先,]我来这里是因为我想挑战自我,看看我能从自己身上挤出多少东西——无论那是什么,无论“我”是什么。[例如,]我申请了两次宇航员候选人计划,但都没能进入第二轮。我想我应该试试看。就像[之前失败的职业经历]海军核动力训练项目一样,在一个领域的失败意味着你必须重新振作起来,掸掉身上的灰尘,寻找新的方向——通常是追求超出你舒适区的拓展目标。

“[第二,]我想为别人服务。我想找到一种对他人有用的方式,无论是以一种有组织的方式还是以一种无组织的方式,无论是做志愿者还是只是做一名公务员。我非常注重服务方面;大约三年前我确实成为了一名主管,我非常认真地对待这个角色。我的领导理念是以服务为基础。……这就是为什么我认为[指导实习学生]对我来说是如此重要的一个[职业]亮点,因为我觉得我是在为他们的需求服务。我正在帮助真正教育他们,并[提供]我想……传授给他们的知识,以真正激励下一代。

“第三个问题——我认为NASA非常适合这个问题——是‘我如何建设未来?我如何帮助建设未来?’

“所以,这是挑战、服务和建设未来。如果我一生中除了这三件事什么都没做,至少我做对了一件事。我可能在其他方面都完全错了,但我至少可以朝着这三点努力。

——罗德·马丁博士,NASA艾姆斯研究中心发现和系统健康技术领域副主管

图片来源: NASA / Brandon Torres
记者: NASA / Michelle Zajac

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